Originally Posted by With Alacrity
I was hoping for more candor Mitch. You certainly didn't simply arrive at this conclusion out of the blue. Someone or something had to have had a striking effect on you.
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CCat evaded:
Well you are absolutely right Bob... When I read about the Holy Wars and the burning of philosophers and witches in history books... I see that this is the murder of millions of innocent people in the name of this imaginary God... And then I see how these religious people are only mirroring the actions they read about in the Bible... Or following there imaginary Gods words to kill all the men, women and children that don't believe in there God and keep all the young virgins for themselves to do as they will... An imaginary God that is so violent that he once supposedly killed everything on the planet with a great flood... Yes Bob this is the same imaginary God that you call master and pray and give thanks to everyday...
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CCat Sez: "supposedly" killed everything on the planet with a great flood...
Bob Sez: Stories of a flood can be found in such diverse places as the Middle East, India, China, Australia, southern Asia, the islands of the Pacific, Europe, AND the Americas, literally HUNDREDS of religions and folk lore world-wide contain universal all encompassing flood stories. The Chinese word for boat chuán symbolically depicts 8 people in a boat. *8 people survived the flood*
Hell of a coincidence?
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CCat Sez: "An imaginary God that is so violent that he once supposedly killed everything on the planet with a great flood... Yes Bob this is the same imaginary God that you call master and pray and give thanks to everyday..."
Bob Sez: Your display of extreme anger goes WAY beyond a mere Freudian slip.
As you recall, I asked for candor Mitch...
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Bob SEZ: "I'll quote Mitch here:"
"Sorry (MITCH), but that ranting doesn't even deserve an answer... You're only making yourself look foolish here..."
Again, I was REALLY hoping for more candor Mitch. That's why I suggested a private personal letter from you. A normal person who doesn't believe in a thing ignores it... You however, attack Christ crucified with eyes closed, flailing wildly with every bit of venom and hatred you can muster, as if your very existence depends on it. That bit of hypocrisy reeks strongly of limburger and ranks a Darwin award, first class.
Unlike yourself, I'll not hide behind a glib non-answer.
You go from 'God' to 'gods' interchangeably, while completely ignoring the god of Darwinism which (as I have already pointed out in past posts) has caused more death and misery than all the rest of the "gods" combined. Christians from the first century AD, on have been and still are, being sacrificed throughout history like Lambs to slaughter, yet somehow the short period of the crusades (in the >NAME< of Christ) are all YOU can see. Meanwhile you ignore the history of the crusades in the popular modern belief being promulgated that the crusades were unprovoked attacks by Christian extremists. This totally ignors the fact that the crusaders drove the oppressive Muslim sharia law
(which the non Muslims were suffering under) out of most of europe.
Karl, make a note of this portion of your missing history along with American Indian cannibalism.
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Bob Said: This part is very true. Islam has been like that since it's very earliest beginnings.
CCat sez: They are only following the words of 'there' imaginary God Bob... One that is very similar to yours... They are just more murdering religious people, not unlike fundamental Christians...
Bob sez: I believe the word you are searching for is 'their' (possessive) imaginary God rather then: 'there,' as in: here or 'there.' You confusingly use the two words interchangeably leaving me guessing at times.
Fundamental Christians; murderers? Damn, You're right. I knew I shouldn't have confessed to 'murdering' those cats. After all according to evolution: cats are equal beings not superior or inferior to ourselves and their killing must thus be a capital offense- or not. VOTE FOR VEGETABLE RIGHTS...
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Bob said:
That's where you are totally screwed up. To start with you place all religions in the same cubical and conveniently forget that Darwinism, the most [faith based religion] of all belongs in there too.
CCats answer:
Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is not a [faith based religion] lol !!! And evolution is only one of the possible theories that I could see as being true... But evolution is based on facts, where as creationism is based on myths and fantasy... And all religions do belong in the same cubical because of this...
CCAT SEZ: " only one of the possible theories that I could see as being true..
Bob SEZ: As I already answered that below, this just further proves my point: When a man denies God he doesn't believe in nothing. He'll believe in anything.
Creationism is based on obvious rational observation of the myriad things surrounding us that clearly REQUIRE a creator.
"There is none so blind as he who WILL not see."-John Heywood.
Or: Jeremiah 5:21: Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:
Or: Matthew 13:13: 13:13 Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing
see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
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CCAT SEZ: Evolution is only one of the possible theories.
Bob sez: That's just more evasions. Evolution is the one you are so desperately defending so NAME ONE! As I've already debunked the ridiculous idea of interstellar travel of "more highly evolved beings" by pointing out that the nearest galaxy with the "possibility" of having a planet similar to earth able to support life is some 7,000 light years away (Then how did THESE more "highly evolved" beings come about?). Everything is acceptable to you "EXCEPT A CREATOR." which brings us right back to "you'll believe in anything."
CCat Quote: "evolution is based on facts."
Bob SEZ: Again, and again, and again, I keep asking you to name one single case of provable evolution OTHER THAN MICRO EVOLUTION'S CHANGES WITHIN SPECIES or KINDS.
I'll even make it easier for you. Name one gain in the genome or an evolutionary process that can be seen to BENEFICIALLY increase the genome. Oops, sorry, lol, I guess I wasn't supposed to slip in the word "beneficially."
You see Mitch, (your "lol" aside). That is what makes Darwinism a totally faith based religion. Darwinists keep SAYING that they have proof, but they can not give so much as a single iota of it. It's all Satan's smoke and mirrors...
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Bob Said: When a man denies God he doesn't believe in nothing. He'll believe in anything. Secondly, without God, how CAN there be either good OR evil? According to your standard what harms you is evil. By what standard is it then >evil< if I find it >good< to harm you?
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CCat evaded:
"Sorry Bob, but that ranting doesn't even deserve an answer...
Your only making yourself look foolish here..."
Bob's answer:
LOL! Stopped you dead in your tracks on this one Mitch?
Without God, there can be neither good OR evil. Evil means: profoundly immoral and malevolent. By who's judgment? As an evolved piece of lightning struck slime aren't you taking an awful lot upon yourself? As an animal how do you arrive at good or bad? If it feels good TO YOU, do it, after all; what's immoral to slime?
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